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MSNBCW - The Rachel Maddow Show
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The Rachel Maddow Show
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mass executions like today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say that now is not the time to talk about how gun safety laws can save lives in america. i agree. now is not the time to talk about gun laws. the time for that conversation was long before all those kids in connecticut died today." carolyn mccarthy's mention of the national rifle association, the nra is what everybody is talking about when they talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president today said we are going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics, he was talking there about the power of the nra as a lobby. and it is true that they have so dominated their field of policy that instead of having the gun laws most americans would like to have, it sometimes seems like instead we as a nation just have the gun policies that the members of the nra would want. that is the impression that we all have. but that is not at all true either. we do not have th
MSNBCW - The Rachel Maddow Show
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The Rachel Maddow Show
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today's. leaders in washington from both parties and groups like the nra all say now is not the time to auction about how gun safety laws save lives in america, i agree, now is not the time to talk good gun laws the, the time was long before all those kids in connecticut died today. carolyn mccarthy's mention of the nra is what everyone is talking about when people talk about the need for leadership regardless of the political consequences on this issue. when the president said we have to come together to take meaningful action regardsless of the politics, he was talking about the nra as a lobby. and it's true, they have so dominated their field of policy, instead of having the gun laws that most americans would like to have. it seems like instead we have the gun policies that the members of the nra want, that's the impression that we have, but it's not at all true either. why do not have the gun policies in this nation that members of the nra want for this nation. look at the polling from july of this year. this is nra members. 74% of nra members believe that everyone who wants to b
MSNBCW - Up W/Chris Hayes
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the power on the congress and senate. you have the power of the nra but on the ground so many millions of people are advocating for gun control. so i think at this point, you need to -- when you think about the strategic coalitions that make people power recognize that the nra's not omnipotent, it may behave like god, but actually, it's not. also what we need in schools, more detectives in schools in new york, in urban areas, that's exactly what you have. and what you have is criminalization of young people. particularly people of color. when you think of a piece like mother jones that takes you over 60 years, most of the guns are illegal. >> that's clearly what we have in this case. >> that's what we have, the guns were legal. so what we never want to do is go to where the power and profit sits. so what we do, we talk about we need this for children. and we need to deal -- we need to criminalize the mental health which is what we will do, but what we don't do is treat the issue. >> also, we have a security mind-set, understandably, right? exactly. the impulse of apocalypse for securit
MSNBCW - The Ed Show
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The Ed Show
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support is out there. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks. you know, that consensus is out there. we just have to make that felt in the halls of congress. >> but the important political consensus is of the organization the nra that can mobilize numbers of voters who will vote on that issue only. and the nra leadership has been the enablers of the mass murderers. and they've got to be called on it. they've got to be called on it by the president and the leaders of congress to confront the nra leadership, as bob said. nra members, they're okay with reasonable gun controls. the nra leadership has been fanatic and frankly functions as enablers to mass murder, and they've got to be stopped on that. >> and we just accept at face value some of the rhetoric that -- lindsey graham was on tv the other night saying, you know, in response to talking about sensible gun laws that no, i believe in the second amendment, i like to hunt. you know, that is not contrary to the sensible gun laws that anybody is advocating. you know, when you talk about something like criminal background
MSNBCW - The Ed Show
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violence are stronger than those who want to continue the nra policies of always trying to get more guns on the street as opposed >> and i think what we need now -- >> congresswoman maloney, i'm sorry. we are out of time. i want to thank the congresswoman and josh horowitz, both for being with us. >>> that's going to do it here live from connecticut. i'm chris jansing. nbc's coverage continues now. >>> good evening, american, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. there are tragedies in life that shake our souls and break our hearts. today, the nation experienced one of those tragedies. every american will struggle to come to grip it's with what happened today in a small community in connecticut. sandy hook elementary school and the small community of about 27,000 residents was the site of a shooting rampage. at this hour, we know 26 people at the school were shot and killed by a lone gunman. 20 of those deceased were children. surviving students and their parents said teachers ordered children to hide in closets. witnesses reported hearing dozens of shots, as many as 100 rounds. po
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control. but as you know there is a very strong opposition to this. the nra, a lot of conservatives, in congress, who say that that's not the answer. we need to do a better job of enforcing the laws that are already on the books. president obama certainly making a pretty strong statement in his remarks yesterday and again in hi radio address today. >> switching gears now. a few moments ago we reported hillary clinton faint ad pew days ago. she is home now. expected to be okay. how will her illness affect the timing of the announcement of the next secretary of state? >> reporter: i don't know that it will have an impact on that announcement. what i can tell you, craig, is that just to put night context, secretary of state clinton recently to cancel an overseas trip because she got a stomach bug. because of that bug, according to officials at the state department, she became dehydrated several day ace go and did faint and did suffer a concussion. but she is at home and is resting and she is being monitored by doctors and she is expected to return to work sometime soon. >> nbc's kriste
MSNBCW - Hardball With Chris Matthews
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want to continue the nra policies of always trying to get more guns on the street as opposed to sensible gun regulation. >> congresswoman carolyn, i want to thank both of you for being with us. >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight we have an hour to get on top of this horrific tragedy up in connecticut, to get our heads around it, to understand why this happened, how things like this do happen. of course take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene in newtown, connecticut, cliff van zandt, former fbi profiler and nbc oonlt. we've got psychologist jeff weiner and psychologist jeff gardere. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, u.s. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a shooting on a suburban commuter train. larry johnson the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials. and jamd baldwin, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying wi
MSNBCW - The Last Word
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a correction to make, earlier in the show when i said if you ask nra members that they believe if people have to pass a background check in this country before buying a firearm, i said 57% of members said yes to it. it is actually 74% of members who want a background check that want -- 74, not 57, sorry about that, we switched up our slides on that. here on nbc, our continuing coverage of the mass shooting, this massacre at sandy hook elementary school will continue now into the night. live from newtown, with chris jansing, please stay with us. >> reporter: 28 people dead in the nation's latest shooting massacre, but this time, the horror is at an elementary school. this is msnbc's live coverage of the shooting in newtown, connecticut. the first call for help came just after 9:30. >> the school shooting at an elementary school in fairfield county, connecticut. >> reporter: it is a small town, holiday lights are up everywhere. >> a young man wearing black. >> he entered the school, he was wearing all black. >> armed with at least two weapons, carrying two handguns and hundreds of rounds of amm
MSNBCW - Hardball With Chris Matthews
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shooting on a commuter train. by the way, we called the nra, the national rifle association hoping to get someone from that organization on tonight. they said they're not commenting until more information is thoroughly known in this case. congresswoman, thank you so much for coming on. i know this brings it all back, but i thought it was great. i said we've got to get carolyn mccarthy because her reason to be in public life, to take on the voters to deal with the public life was this issue of the horror that hit your husband. >> and it was. you know, it's not funny, but, yesterday, in my office, we sat down to plan what we were going to do for the next term. and i said, listen, i came here to congress to reduce gun violence. we have to do something about it. the president's words meant a lot to me today because his tone was different. we have to take this head on. and i know that the white house had said earlier that this was not a time to talk about gun violence. you know what? they're right. it should have been years ago so that hopefully we wouldn't have had to go through this. there a
MSNBCW - The Last Word
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want this. the other thing that is i think, important, is that people talk about the power of the nra. but when you look at the election results that happened this november, the nra had a terrible season. i mean, my home state of virginia they really spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to knock off tim kaine, who is a big supporter of gun laws. they were not able to do that. they went after tammy baldwin, and of course they went after the president. everybody believes we should have reasonable gun laws. what is standing in the way is the nra leadership. we need to push them aside. it is not difficult. the nra is a paper tiger. it is time to get this done, the time is now, the day's events just showed what must happen in this country. >> congresswoman, we have talked over the last several months about how there have been shifts on so many issues, many of them social issues, for example, gay marriage. that it does seem as if legislation is sort of catching up with public opinion, is that what is happening here? and is there a way to push it forward from your perspective? >> well, i h
MSNBCW - Weekends With Alex Witt
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is the nra to deal with on these issues? i mean, talk about the power that the nra wields. >> look, i think actually the nra's power is more perceived than real, alex. when i heard the news yesterday and like jimmy, i grew up with a rifle. i grew up in pennsylvania. we went hunting. we never had handguns around but we had a rifle in the house. and we used it for hunting. that was it. but i think a lot of us who were in the hunting community have much more tolerance for stricter regulation of the handguns and especially certain kinds of handguns than most people per sooechlt and i think you see that in the polling. when i heard the news yesterday as a father of two children who i send out to public school here in washington, d.c. every day, a city that has outlawed guns but still has a very high crime rate, and the husband of a public schoolteacher, i just wanted to see my wife and two kids as quickly as possible and hug them and know that they're okay. like all other parents, i think, in the country, including the president felt when we heard the news yesterday. >> well, i can echo that. i
MSNBCW - Melissa Harris-Perry
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children being killed. >> we have to make that coalition. we have polled gun owners and nra members and found broad support on things like background checks on all gun sales. the american people who are watching and believe that we deserve better than this and deserve a nation that is better and safer, join us at we are better than this.org. you have to keep talking and engage in the process otherwise, we will have the same conversation the next time a mass shooting happens. we can no longer keep repeating it over and over and the same c conversations, because we have to move forward with that and we have to do it together. >> collin, you were shot in 2007, and the tact that we are here in 2012, does it feel like we have failed you? your fellow survivors and those who did not survive that massacre? >> that is a tough question. i feel good about what i am doing today and the the people i am connecting with with, and the progress in capitol hill and ledgislatures across the kun tc. it has been an overwhelming experience, but it is one that is very rewarding. we are trying to take the
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on the nra. they put a lot of money in against you. and so it is -- it is a challenge but it is going to have to be done. we just can't keep going through tragedy after tragedy like this. it has got to stop. it is going to require a lot of things. it will require a sensible gun safety and gun control measures and it is going to require much more elaborate mental health planning and systems. it is going to require a better school safety. and even beyond gun control, it is going to require, i think, a real serious conversation about whether we immediate to have so many guns. assault weapons ban and the closing of the gun show loopholes and other prohibitions on extended ammunition clips, those will help. still if the facts appear as they are, these weapons were mostly handguns legally owned by mother in this case. it ought to prompt a conversation about whether these guns in our homes really make us more safe. and even if they provide additional protection for the individual gun owner, gun owners need to realize they can be used not only to kill them but their family members and to kill 20 kids

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